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Re: unfetched hashes and turtle excluding devices

Postby addams » Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:28 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:
addams wrote:Those little chihuahuas can be mean little dogs.
One remarkably vicious little beast can effect the way I see a whole breed.

There were more than one jumpy, grumpy chihuahua.
One was a dangerous dog. It was so little!

yes. Dogs are mistreated, sometimes.
On rare occasions the dog is at fault.

The people had to surrender that chihuahua.
That little bastard was hurting people and the people were crying.

I like dogs and many of them like me.
That little bastard bit me! It hurt, too.

If a big dog had bitten me with that kind of passion,
I would have an arm missing.

If you have a sweet little chihuahua, thank your lucky stars.
I know they can be sweet. I also know they can be a difficult dog to know.
Indeed. We know a few others who meet the definition of Anklebiters. In that, they bite my wife's ankles every time she's around them.

And most others I've been around have pretty much always been loud, justified barking machines.

That being said, I'm sad to hear that you've been attacked by the tiny little bastards as well. It's never a pleasant experience, especially when the owner is laughing it off as their tiny bites can't do much actual damage, just cause pain. Causing pain's enough to be wrong.

Thank you for understanding.
In my case, the poor little ankle biter's people were crying.

It seems, like people, dogs can go a bit Nuts.
As their dog aged it became more and more aggressive.

There were two people in a large family that were safe with that little dog;
Then it turned on one of them. Poor dog. Poor family. Poor me.

That little AssHole of a dog really tore into me. I like dogs; I have been bitten before.
That was the third time in my entire life a dog bit me. That was the only time it was not explainable as a misunderstanding.

If that dog had been big, someone might have had to Tranquilize it.
It was like a the Legend of the Tasmanian Devil.

Lucky You!
I know they can be sweet little dogs.

I knew a long haired Chawawa.
He got cold easy and shook.

He did not like being underfoot.
He liked being up in my face and that is where I liked him, too.
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Re: unfetched hashes and turtle excluding devices

Postby Ptolom » Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:57 pm UTC

I was chased by a noisy bloodhound today. I think she could smell cat on my trousers.

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Re: unfetched hashes and turtle excluding devices

Postby addams » Sat Dec 14, 2013 3:47 am UTC

Ptolom wrote:I was chased by a noisy bloodhound today. I think she could smell cat on my trousers.

What did that dog do to you when she caught you?
Did it slobber? eewww. Did it shake its head? (yuck)

Poor you.
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Re: unfetched hashes and turtle excluding devices

Postby Djehutynakht » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:08 am UTC

Would it be a feasible idea to secure more funding for NASA by sneaking into the congressional offices and inserting typos which would redirect funding from the NSA?


I could see the headlines now:

"Space terrorists sabotage US Budget with typos".

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Re: unfetched hashes and turtle excluding devices

Postby roband » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:33 am UTC

I think the reverse is what already happened.

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Re: unfetched hashes and turtle excluding devices

Postby addams » Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:29 am UTC

Djehutynakht wrote:Would it be a feasible idea to secure more funding for NASA by sneaking into the congressional offices and inserting typos which would redirect funding from the NSA?


I could see the headlines now:

"Space terrorists sabotage US Budget with typos".

umm. Really?
The all powerful computer could do it.
So, funny. You have funny ideas.

Sneak in? Sneaking is would be so much fun.
Sneaking in would have little or nothing to do with the movement of money. Would it?

Do we know how that stuff works, now?
Do Congress people, really, fund or unfund large projects?

In this day and age, you dare not sneak in.
Can you get anywhere near your Congressman?

I used to get near mine. I liked him. I thought he was nice.

What do you want? NASA? NASA is such a good idea.
What was the Big Idea?

We were to reach for The Stars with one hand and each other with the other hand.
We may need more hands. No! We have plenty of hands.

I thought it was a good idea. If our hands are busy, reaching for the stars and for each other, we will not get into trouble.
If we did more reaching that way we might stop overreaching in other ways.

We are all in the Gutter.
Some of us see the Gutter.
Some of us see the Stars.

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Re: unfetched hashes and turtle excluding devices

Postby PhoenixEnigma » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:14 pm UTC

addams wrote:We were to reach for The Stars with one hand and each other with the other hand.
We may need more hands. No! We have plenty of hands.

Some of our rockets have plenty of appendages, but I don't particularly think that's a good thing. Let's stick to two hands, indeed.
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Re: unfetched hashes and turtle excluding devices

Postby SurgicalSteel » Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:23 pm UTC

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I just realized that if I had gotten into a serious relationship with a girl I was into in college, I would have to listen to TSO everyday of the Christmas season. I think I really dodged a bullet there :)
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Re: unfetched hashes and turtle excluding devices

Postby addams » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:32 am UTC

SurgicalSteel wrote:[tongueVeryMuchInCheek]
I just realized that if I had gotten into a serious relationship with a girl I was into in college, I would have to listen to TSO everyday of the Christmas season. I think I really dodged a bullet there :)
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Re: unfetched hashes and turtle excluding devices

Postby SurgicalSteel » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:44 am UTC

Yes, that. They were fun for a bit, but not on constant replay. And I'm not a big fan of Christmas music in the first place.
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Postby eran_rathan » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:31 pm UTC

slightly late to the party, but I like big dogs much better than little dogs.

I am a cat person mostly, but I've got a pretty good Blue-tick/German Shepherd mix - as long as you haven't been around raccoons or other rodents and mustelids, he's good. He leans though - he'll walk right up next to you and throw his entire, non-insubstantial 100 lb weight against your legs so that you are forced to pet him.

He likes little dogs though. My wife wants to get a little dog to play with him. He like to think he is a little dog when he climbs in your lap.
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Re: unfetched hashes and turtle excluding devices

Postby roband » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:42 pm UTC

eran_rathan wrote:Blue-tick/German Shepherd mix

I'd love to see a pic.

My gf's family had a Shepherd and I agree, big dogs are better.

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Re: unfetched hashes and turtle excluding devices

Postby Angua » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:46 pm UTC

In before ST enters the conversation with those aren't big dogs! ;)
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Postby SecondTalon » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:02 pm UTC

Angua wrote:In before ST enters the conversation with those aren't big dogs! ;)

... what Angua said. Those are Medium.
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Re: unfetched hashes and turtle excluding devices

Postby roband » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:08 pm UTC

I disagree. Collies and such are medium, IMO.

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Postby Carlington » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:12 pm UTC

Back home, I have (had) a golden mountain dog, which is a crossbreed of a golden retriever and a bernese mountain dog. He was enormous.
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Postby Zarq » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:23 pm UTC

roband wrote:I disagree. Collies and such are medium, IMO.


They're low medium. St Bernards are big. Great Danes are huge.
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Postby SurgicalSteel » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:30 pm UTC

I've always thought of German Shepherds and Black Labs and such as "normal" size dogs."Large" dogs are dogs like Great Danes and Irish Wolfhounds.

Definitely biased though, I grew up with a lab and a German Shepherd mix, so to me they're "normal."
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Re: unfetched hashes and turtle excluding devices

Postby roband » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:36 pm UTC

Carlington wrote:Back home, I have (had) a golden mountain dog, which is a crossbreed of a golden retriever and a bernese mountain dog. He was enormous.

According to GIS, that cross makes some nice looking dogs.

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Postby roband » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:37 pm UTC

SurgicalSteel wrote:I've always thought of German Shepherds and Black Labs and such as "normal" size dogs."Large" dogs are dogs like Great Danes and Irish Wolfhounds.

Definitely biased though, I grew up with a lab and a German Shepherd mix, so to me they're "normal."

Using "normal" size is always going to bring bias. You don't have small, normal, big. It's smallER, normal, bigGER.

If you can be objective, you can have; very small, small, medium, big and very big.

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Postby quetzal1234 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:06 pm UTC

eran_rathan wrote:slightly late to the party, but I like big dogs much better than little dogs.

I am a cat person mostly, but I've got a pretty good Blue-tick/German Shepherd mix - as long as you haven't been around raccoons or other rodents and mustelids, he's good. He leans though - he'll walk right up next to you and throw his entire, non-insubstantial 100 lb weight against your legs so that you are forced to pet him.

He likes little dogs though. My wife wants to get a little dog to play with him. He like to think he is a little dog when he climbs in your lap.

German shepherds are amazing dogs.
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Re: unfetched hashes and turtle excluding devices

Postby Adam H » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:20 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:
Angua wrote:In before ST enters the conversation with those aren't big dogs! ;)

... what Angua said. Those are Medium.
You're both being silly. The correct way to compare dog sizes is logarithmically. So then a logical scale would be:
XS: <8
S: 8-16
MS:16-32
ML: 32-64
L: 64-128
XL: >128

Pretty much the only way to make 100 pounders fall in the medium range is if you think 5 pounders and 30 pounders are in the same category. In which case you would be wrong.
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Postby roband » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:22 pm UTC

Those are weights? Fat does not a "big" dog make.

edit: medium dog - http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/fat-chih ... 428047.jpg

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Postby SecondTalon » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:51 pm UTC

Adam H wrote:
SexyTalon wrote:
Angua wrote:In before ST enters the conversation with those aren't big dogs! ;)

... what Angua said. Those are Medium.
You're both being silly. The correct way to compare dog sizes is logarithmically. So then a logical scale would be:
XS: <8
S: 8-16
MS:16-32
ML: 32-64
L: 64-128
XL: >128

Pretty much the only way to make 100 pounders fall in the medium range is if you think 5 pounders and 30 pounders are in the same category. In which case you would be wrong.


Your chart is wrong.

0-60 - Small
60-120 - Medium
120+ - Large
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Re: unfetched hashes and turtle excluding devices

Postby roband » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:57 pm UTC

If you wanna group this:
Spoiler:
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and this:
Spoiler:
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then.. well you're being a bit silly. Probably in an effort to seem like you're saying "nar, my dog is loads bigger than your dog".

Imagine if boxers (sports people, not dogs) fought in 3 weight classes. Wouldn't work.

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Postby Carlington » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:19 pm UTC

Since none of you provided units with your scales, I'm choosing to read them as height at the shoulder, in centimetres, in which case they are correct.

EDIT: In which case Adam H's is correct.
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Postby Angua » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:38 pm UTC

For the record, I hold no part in this debate, other than predicting it's onset. :twisted:
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Postby SecondTalon » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:00 pm UTC

roband wrote:If you wanna group this:
Spoiler:
Image
and this:
Spoiler:
Image
then.. well you're being a bit silly. Probably in an effort to seem like you're saying "nar, my dog is loads bigger than your dog".

Imagine if boxers (sports people, not dogs) fought in 3 weight classes. Wouldn't work.


It's more of

"Can't jump on the table"
"Can jump on the table"
"Has no need to jump on the table as the table and head are more or less level"

I don't see the need to split it up into more than three groups in most cases. If you're not competing with them, you're not putting them to work, you're simply using them as a companion animal and a light home security system/visitor announcer, then Small/Medium/Large will fit all of your needs.
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Postby eran_rathan » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:13 pm UTC

I agree with Carlington, it isn't as much about weight as it is size at shoulder - Jack is about 70cm at the shoulder and masses about 45 kg - I consider him a slightly larger than average dog.

Working with extremes of Chihuahua and Great Dane, 15cm to 85cm (height at shoulder), you should break it down by

XS: 15-29cm
S: 30-44cm
M: 44-58cm
L: 58-72cm
XL: 72-86cm

making Jack very solidly a large dog.

EDIT to add: The police are afraid to come into the house because of him. :)
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Postby phlip » Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:03 am UTC

Carlington wrote:Since none of you provided units with your scales, I'm choosing to read them as height at the shoulder, in centimetres, in which case they are correct.

EDIT: In which case Adam H's is correct.

I instead choose to read them as a unitless count, so a "large" dog is composed of around 100 doglets.

I may be a little unclear about canine anatomy.

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Postby Jplus » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:37 am UTC

eran_rathan wrote:slightly late to the party, but I like big dogs much better than little dogs.

I am a cat person mostly, but I've got a pretty good Blue-tick/German Shepherd mix - as long as you haven't been around raccoons or other rodents and mustelids, he's good. He leans though - he'll walk right up next to you and throw his entire, non-insubstantial 100 lb weight against your legs so that you are forced to pet him.

He likes little dogs though. My wife wants to get a little dog to play with him. He like to think he is a little dog when he climbs in your lap.

Aren't big dogs generally trained better because of their appearance? It seems that people take training more serious with larger dogs, or in other words, that people might not be strict enough with the smaller, "cuter" dogs.

I'm more of a cat person, by the way, but I don't mind talking about dogs.
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Postby eran_rathan » Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:12 pm UTC

for roband (and anyone else who cares)

here is Jack (picture from two years ago - the only difference is now his muzzle is a little whiter):

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You can't really see it, but his chest and hindquarters are brindled like a Blue Tick.
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Postby Shro » Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:37 pm UTC

I think that's one of the reasons little dogs are so annoying, it's not nature, it's nurture. I've met some absolutely adorable, well behaved little dogs as puppies, and if they grew up to be monsters, it's no fault but that of the owners. Since they can't really do any damage, owners are a lot more lax at training them not to jump up on people. Since their barks aren't as loud, they're more lax at shushing them on command, etc.

With the dog sizing issues, I'd like to propose a new standard that takes into consideration the dog/owner weight ratio. My dog/owner weight ratio is about .85. Now say like a 300 lb person had a similar size dog, their ratio would only be .36. (My arms and shoulders are pretty built from having to control him on a leash)

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Postby Angua » Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:23 pm UTC

So, I figure there are upwards of thousands of movies which involve Santa (or a santa-related figure) needing to get someone (generally a parent) to believe in Santa, or Christmas will be ruined as he won't be able to deliver the presents.

What is never explained is this - if Santa does deliver the presents, where do the parents think the presents come from? Do they get false memories about buying gifts that they haven't got?
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Postby You, sir, name? » Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:11 pm UTC

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Re: unfetched hashes and turtle excluding devices

Postby addams » Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:58 am UTC

Shro wrote:I think that's one of the reasons little dogs are so annoying, it's not nature, it's nurture. I've met some absolutely adorable, well behaved little dogs as puppies, and if they grew up to be monsters, it's no fault but that of the owners. Since they can't really do any damage, owners are a lot more lax at training them not to jump up on people. Since their barks aren't as loud, they're more lax at shushing them on command, etc.

With the dog sizing issues, I'd like to propose a new standard that takes into consideration the dog/owner weight ratio. My dog/owner weight ratio is about .85. Now say like a 300 lb person had a similar size dog, their ratio would only be .36. (My arms and shoulders are pretty built from having to control him on a leash)

My fuzzbutt:
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I think your fuzzbutt is lovely.
Jack is a great looking dog, too.

What is up with the way jack's back legs look?
Does he have Great Dane blood?

I disagree about laying the fault of aggressive doggie behavior on the human.
Of course, that does happen.

Much, much more common is a little ankle bitter that becomes more and more aggressive and difficult to handle as it ages.
Breeding does make a great deal of difference. A person that has a Saintly Golden Retriever may not be able to understand.

I have had some darned good dogs. Of course, I would like to take credit for them.
I can't. They were, just, good dogs. I was fortunate to have such good dog friends.
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Re: unfetched hashes and turtle excluding devices

Postby eSOANEM » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:48 am UTC

Angua wrote:What is never explained is this - if Santa does deliver the presents, where do the parents think the presents come from? Do they get false memories about buying gifts that they haven't got?


They all call the cops to report a break-in once the kids have gone to sleep again.
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Re: unfetched hashes and turtle excluding devices

Postby You, sir, name? » Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:04 am UTC

I've forgotten what I used to do when not working. So far I've turned pretty much all of reddit from blue into purple. ... I seem to remember there being something else.

Also, fuck this weather so much. It's pouring in late december. No snow to speak of. This means, at ole 63°50′N, that it's incredibly dark. All day long. There just isn't enough lamps to make this feel anything other than miserable.
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